Beds & Mattresses in San Francisco, CA

As other commentors have noted, that's called a "pillow top." It's notable that a pillow top is primary a cosmetic feature on a mattress. It looks that way because its sewn that way -- if you were to take a blade and cut it open, you would see that it is the exact same foam inside that is often sold separately as a "mattress topper."

A pillowtop is similar to a mattress topper. The key is to purchase a good quality topper. I got myself a 3" SOFT talalay latex topper from [Lumasleep.com](https://Lumasleep.com). Paid a LOT for it (nearly $400. in full size), but it's worth every penny. Like sleeping on a giant marshmallow. Memory foam and 'fiber-filled' toppers did not relieve my pressure points. If you buy this item, it comes with a decent zip-on cover. I bought the tencel cover, thinking I would be getting a naked slab of latex. Spent an unnecessary $50, but the tencel cover is nice, even though it's not zip-on. It's constructed like a fitted sheet, and doesn't work to just cover the topper bc it shifts. I kept it, though, and I tuck it under my mattress & box foundation (it's deep enough, total about 12"), and this prevents shifting. Glad I had it when my cat peed on my bed (it didn't go through, YMMV).

You may want to list the brand and model

That IS a mattress topper.

The picture you linked to is a pillow top mattress build which has its top cushioned section tailored as part of the mattress. There are some similar finished mattress toppers available like these from [Brentwood Home](https://www.brentwoodhome.com/collections/mattress-toppers) which might suit your needs. For less money you can buy a more basic topper of memory foam or latex of various softness and densities but without the fancy cover which you can simply place on top of the mattress under a protector and fitted sheet.

If skint, you could save money and still get a decent result by using a firm reflex foam base or coiled mattresses with a high density 4-5 lb memory foam topper (with low ILD for softness) or latex topper.

Since everyone else is answering you on the topper question, I wanted to ask, does the place you bought it from not have an exchange or return policy?

Look at [themattressunderground.com](https://themattressunderground.com). I am sure someone on that site can suggest something for you. I red all that I could there and asked questions before I bought our new mattress. Our mattress is customized so that I have the softer 'pillow' top and my hubby has the firm top. And if it does not work we can exchange it or if later we can change our sides to what we each need. We bought a king size Nest Alexander mattress and the price was half that price.

DO NOT REMOVE TAG.

Don't skimp out. There's a saying that you should always buy good shoes and a good mattress as you'll be spending half your time in one and the other half in the other. You've served as a marine so no doubt you're very familiar with all the benefits of a darn good set of boots. Treat a mattress as boots for your back, back boots if you will!

Forgive the shameless plug, but I wrote a blog post dealing specifically with this question. I have the first two parts of the guide up. www.mattressnerd.com The tl;dr version: get it supportive enough to keep you in alignment, but soft enough that you don't feel pressure. And you MUST lie on the mattresses before buying, preferably for several minutes. Good luck.

Trying spending a night at the store to try it out. You might have to break in, but it's worth it. Only way to know for sure.

Buy New

Don't go to the store with your tightwad friend who will talk you into buying the cheaper one to save a few bucks. Fuck you Barry! Its only been six months and the things as flat as a pancake.

I just recently bought a new memory foam mattress off of Overstock.com Queen size for $359 (free shipping). It's pretty damn comfortable and has helped my lower back pain big time. Even if this mattress last me 3 to 4 years I'll still be satisfied and buy another one.

I really do recommend you treat yourself to a high end mattress. You don't know the joy of a really good mattress until you've experienced it.

I found fair prices and decent mattresses at Denver Mattress Company. On the other hand, I felt Mattress Firm really tried to steer me in the direction of the more expensive mattresses.

First don't go cheap, you will regret it, and good ones are expensive. Second, figure out how much support your body needs and don't be shy about laying down and trying them out - take your time. Third, you will either love a tempurpedic or absolutely hate it. Try a pillow top mattress as well - they come in firm and extra firm as well. The pillow top extra firm is my personal preference.

Just get any old thing then get a massive thick mattress pad.

Don't know anything about mattresses but just bought a set of 450 thread count 100% cotton sheets. Another place not to skimp. After years of cheap sheets these are so comfortable. Also chuck in a set of flannel sheets for winter. So nice to get into on a cold night. Even if you have to eat rice and beans for a month, spend some money on this. You are looking at a ten to 15 year investment.

Have you bought it yet? There are a lot of things you should look for. You should look for pocketed/wrapped coils if you're going with an innerspring bed. If you're going with a foam one, make sure it actually has memory foam. Buy from a company that allows you to try the bed for at least 60 days. Also, try to find one that has a price guarantee. Every retailer has the same beds. Don't waste your time going from store to store trying the same things. Go to the store that has the most options and will price match. Find the right bed. Double check prices online (they'll have different names, but it's the same bed. I can help you find the comparables, if you need.) and get that company to match (or beat) the best price.

/r/BuyItForLife combined with amazon reviews and the [Mattress Underground](http://www.themattressunderground.com/) is how I picked the next mattress I plan on buying. Dreamfoam all the way!

/r/GoodValue?

Buy it for life would be a good place as well

try amazon.com

I can tell you pretty much anything you want to know about mattresses. I've worked in the industry for years. What kind of questions do you have? If you want I can just tell you some general stuff to look for.

Here honestly. A few people bitch but the quality sentiments here are the best place to go.

www.themattressunderground.com has got a ton of information on what to look for in a mattress and how. They touch on build composition, quality, manufacturing process and more, along with how to navigate the options to find what works for you personally. It's a little bit of work, but it's worth the effort of finding what works for you so you can truly get your "bifl" mattress.

I don’t like mattresses with springs, and I just bought a mattress last month. I bought the Nectar online it had a really long guarantee, the customer service is trash but the mattress is nice.

Nectar mattress is BIFL. They have a forever warranty. For $1040 I had a queen size mattress, 2 pillows and the foundation delivered to my house. If there's ever a problem they will replace the mattress. The pillows and foundation are not BIFL, but that's ok.

Tuft & Needle.

Casper makes a great mattress. Inexpensive, comfortable. They ship it to you in a box, and if you decide to return it (for a full refund) they will donate it to charity.

The thing about mattresses and why they aren't buy it for life, is that you shed skin at night. All that skin goes into the mattress, and skin mites eat it. You are covered in skin mites all the time. No harm though. Over the years, this buildup of dead mites and dead skin cells cause the bed to degrade, and end up after 2 decades or so to be the majority of the weight of the bed. Unless you physically wash it. Makes me realize that a carpet cleaner vacuum might do wonders.

I’ve been going through the mattress-buying process lately and have pretty much settled on a DIY approach. Check out mattresses.net, they’re a Phoenix-based retailer that both makes mattresses and sells components to do it yourself. My wife and I went to a few physical retailers, figured out what type of materials we like (spring vs foam vs latex vs hybrid) and are trying to buy components to match that. You need a base support layer, a comfort layer, and a case. Perhaps a pillow-top layer if that’s your preference. It’s not complicated and you can get components you know are quality. The big selling point for me is that the components are replaceable — if the cover gets messed up, buy a new cover and not an entire mattress. If the foam collapses and causes a body-shaped dent (which is what our current mattress has done), replace that layer and not the whole mattress. I second reading mattress underground, learning about how mattresses are made to help cut through the bullshit, and try and find a local manufacturer if you don’t want to DIY. Stay away from the big in-store brands (waste of money for the shit quality you get.

/r/buyitforhalflife

/r/buyitforhalflife

Disclaimer: I have a Purple 2 so I'm a little biased, but Purple is certainly not paying me to say this. (Unless you guys wanna) You're right about good/mediocre mattresses lasting similar amounts of time, for the most part. Foam breaks down, it doesn't matter if it's the softest, most wonderful foam you've ever slept on, or one step above styrofoam, it's going to break down. The beauty of the second generation Purple mattresses is that they hardly have any foam in them. The top layer is a hyper elastic polymer and the bottom is a composite coil base sandwiched between two thin layers of foam that won't usually compress enough to suffer much wear over time. It has about 2-3 inches of sturdy foam around the sides, but again most of the wear is going to be on the polymer top and the coil base, which are both stupid durable. The downside of a purple mattress is it ruins all other mattresses, as I found out last night when I tried to sleep on a normal mattress. I got about 2 hours of sleep total, so be aware!

Hibwstly

i check out wirecutter frequently.

I've had innerspring mattresses that cost $2 k and wore out in just a few years. The last, and best mattress I purchased was from Tuft & Needle; a foam mattress that I actually bought on Amazon. They ship it to you in a box and you can return it for refund if you don't like it. Fair price, like $600 for a king if I recall correctly. I love this one. You can find similar at Costco and the like but check out the reviews from various sources. Also see: [https://www.sleeplikethedead.com/](https://www.sleeplikethedead.com/)

Don’t get a Sleep Number. It’s basically a really expensive air mattress. I’ve had a Stearns and foster that has lasted 20 years and is the most comfortable bed in our house.

Leesa mattress has been good to me

Maybe r/frugal. Buying quality and long lasting would fall under that.

I have a situation where i have had the opportunity to try/use at least 5 mail order mattresses, and learned along the way reviews are crap when it comes to them. And they are all so desperate now....one company I used claimed "a revolutionary, patented technology that, through the use of fibers, converts the body’s natural energy (heat) into infrared (IR) light and emits it into the body’s tissue and muscles. " Really?!? I think that is just foam. What a bunch of marketing CRAP. The reviews are all subjective. At the end of the day, NONE of them were firm enough (even the ones labeled most firm, so I ended up doing it the old fashion style.....going to the old brick and mortar mattress store and buying there. Best decision ever and took out all the stress. Good luck.

I guess you just need to ask a lot of people about their experiences, their sleep preferences, and know what questions to ask. I used to love reading a blog that glowed (without an endorsement) about the Savvy Rest mattress (latex) and talked on and on about how the mattress would confirm to your specifications and you could switch out the firmness/softness of the layers until you found the perfect combination for your body, it would last for 25 years, etc. So I looked around briefly but bought a Savvy Rest and it was HORRIBLE. The company later told me that their beds are designed for people who weigh over 140lbs and for double occupancy - while I weighed 120lb and was sleeping solo (well.. how was a buyer supposed to know that unless you know to ask???). **Never** buy a mattress that doesn't have a one year (or longer) trial period with FREE return shipping and home pickup. That blog also got rid of that Savvy Rest mattress after less than 6 years and never removed their glowing review from their blog! Also, I don't think anyone should buy a mattress with the idea of 'it'll last x" years because (and I didn't know this) as your body changes, you might prefer a different type of mattress or get a new sleeping partner who prefers firm or soft.... so getting one that lasts might not be the best choice for longterm comfort. Savvy Rest never takes returns, but after lots of complaints and costing them more money because of ordering new layers, they let me return that product. And I bought a Tempurpedic because I used to housesit for people who loved theirs and I'd sleep on their bed and loved it. But. Now that I've had mine for 7 years (it's supposed to last 20), and I've started waking up with back pain... either due to age or my 2019 body or sleep preferences (no longer a side sleeper, but a back sleeper). But after spending so much, I don't want to buy a new mattress because I feel like I haven't gotten my moneys worth yet..... Mattresses are a tough purchase!!!!

online reviews, youtube, etc. thing that sucks about online, people are quick to point out negatives more often than any positives

Michael Schwabe a NIOSH approved respirator and good ventilation solve all of your toxicity problems. As long as you don't eat your lunch in your workshop, you'll be okay.

Any glue suitable for foam rubber is going to be toxic. Water based glues will not work well. I prefer Weldwood Contact Cement over Barge.

Try "Foam Fusion" from Hot Wire Foam Factory ( www.HWFF.com )

By "made in America," they mean the pieces are ordered in China and glued together in America, usually.

Do you mean BOBs discount furniture from the northeast US?

thread and needle

Most of the online-only mattress shops make those sort of claims, but almost none of them manufacture their own foam. It's the same number of "men" as any other company that sells directly to consumers.

My first bed when I moved out of my family home was a foam mattress overlay on a canvas hammock I had painted to match my bedroom stuff, and that lasted over two years and kept me off the ground and I actually really liked it in both winter and summer, plus the swinging was a lot of fun (and this thing was very portable.) Boyfriends hated the hammock, so that came to quick end.

http://www.themattressunderground.com/ will steer you in the right direction.

You have to visit 1-5 local mattress retailers and answer this question for yourself. Reasons we can't: 1. Price. Unless you want us to do a budget analysis, we have no idea of your budget. 2. Hot/cold. We have no idea if you think any mattress will be too hot or cold for you, that's personal. 3. Support. We have no idea if you think any mattress will match your definition of soft or firm, that's personal. If you want a mattress you have two lots in life. 1. Visit local bedding places and try them on in real life. Lay there for 10 minutes. Know the support. Know the soft/firm. Know the hot/cold of the mattress. 2. Play Russian Roulette. Order a random mattress from the interwebs and pray it works for you. I know what I'd do. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvlA9UxGvSg The best known long lasting TYPE is a latex mattress but they are expensive and can be hot to some people.

I’ve had great luck with the higher end Beautyrest mattresses.

Is any mattress other than latex actually bifl?

Check Costco warehouses or go for 100% natural latex if that’s in the budget.

It's really hard to give specific recommendations on mattresses, because the mattress industry is notorious for changing model names every year to make it harder for independent reviews to actually be helpful. I will say, though, foam is definitely where it's at when it comes to durability. The only thing is that there can be a massive quality difference between foam mattresses, and mattress manufacturers will frequently change suppliers for foam without really giving much notice. I have a "Lucid" brand foam mattress that basically feels exactly the same now as it did when it was new 5 years ago, and I'm used to innerspring mattresses starting to feel funny within 2 years due to my weight. The thing is, on their Amazon page, they list both the "2019 Model" and the "2020 Model," which leads me to believe that they regularly change suppliers, and so it's unlikely any mattress you buy from them will be the same mattress I have. If you want to check it out, here's the [Amazon product page](https://www.amazon.com/LUCID-Inch-Memory-Foam-Mattress/dp/B0861HFYW1), but again, really not giving a recommendation here, as the product has likely changed. One other bit of advice on mattress shopping: steer clear of the big mattress shops. They are specifically designed to inundate you with a massive number of choices, most of which are extremely similar, so that when you become overwhelmed you'll rely on the salespeople who will direct you to the biggest ripoff mattresses.

We got a Sealy Queen mattress in 2008 cost about $2000 at the time, wife and I handed it down to our daughter in 2018, and it is still a fantastic mattress, for the first year after handing it down I'd trade rooms with my daughter and still use that bed if I needed a good night sleep, our new King doesn't even come close. The Queen survived moving rooms 3 times and houses twice.

I just dealt with picking a mattress. Youtube reviews and /r/Mattress were helpful.

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In love with my Beautyrest Silver.

$150 is going to limit your choices significantly. Good beds aren't cheap. Quality natural latex beds and beds made with Euro spring construction in combination with wool/cotton/latex filling will both last. We have the latter, which will make it to 10 years, and then some.

I had the same problem two before about my late text mattress… You should also check with Mike Peters he and his partner have had one for many years...